In her life story, Fwirl mentions she was attacked by foxes and she was thrust from the main action. When the vermin left she came out and saw her mother lying still with a deep head wound. When Botarus told Deyna a.k.a Tagg the story he told a very similar account plus that he had saved Madd and named her because she had gone mad from her wound. Could Madd be Fwirl's mother? Think about it.
Both of the squirrels had deep head wounds when found by Boatarus and Fwirl respectfully. Both were attacked by foxes and by Botarus the addition of other vermin. Fwirl was inside a log so she would not have seen the vermin with her own eyes. Also, Fwirl did not mention whether was dead or not, just lying still. Deyna was not dead when Vallug shoot him yet lying still. I know people can rebut against that Deyna was a strong fighter and so could survive that but Madd was a very strong fighter. I would be very glad if somebody wrote a rebuttal!--Deyna the Mighty 
What's Up! 16:06, 15 November 2008 (UTC) 00:59, 21 June 2009 (UTC)